He’s not really being that rude about Marina: “She’ll have a place in history for having done something. She disagrees, but I don’t think the work is meant to be reproduced. She’ll have an influence.” On Gaga: “The concentration, the power she has, it’s total. … She should do Medea.” On theatre staging: “You don’t have to understand every second. I think that’s the problem. Let the audience get lost. It’s OK.”